Wednesday, 6 November 2024

Motorola G85

The obvious way to tackle this G85 review is as a three-way comparison. Firstly, with the phone it replaces, the G84 from the year before, but more importantly in my view, the newer Edge 50 Neo - the big question being, is the extra £100 justified for the benefits that the latter brings. 

One caveat to remember here is to also check prices - as always Motorola phones are often on deals and sales, so shop around. At time of writing, for example, the Edge 50 Neo is £329 and the G85, £249 - making the difference a mere £70. But still, to many folk, even £70 is a significant difference when money is tight, so let's look at it.

Firstly the unboxing and the G85 comes in a minimalist box, all buff-coloured and eco-friendly, plastic-free as is their standard now, no charging brick, a USB-C to USB-C cable, some papers, a lovely soft, clear, simple, grippy TPU case (well done Moto) and a pokey-tool for the SIM Card tray. This is a PR unit, kindly loaned by MotorolaUK, which has been in the hands of other reviewers, so I can't tell you if the box is 'perfumed' in the way that others have been recently - I can't detect it! Be aware that depending on your region, contents of retail boxes may differ.

It's beautifully designed. Yeah, I know, I'm one of the few who really still likes the very-slightly curved screens. I'm not talking about waterfall edges, but just slightly - makes it feel classy and premium to me whilst being fairly minimalist, not interfering with screen touches. No surprises on layout of functions, nanoSIM Card tray with reverse for microSD but no second SIM option on this unit (apart from eSIM), USB-C port, speaker at the bottom, volume/power on the right, nothing left and top but microphones and the front panel has a secondary speaker for stereo, doubling up as the earpiece for calls in the usual way - and below that, a punch-hole Selfie cutout. The back is made of what they call eco-leather, well actually it's Silicone Polymer - plastic, but it does have a nice velvety feel to it and affords more grip, for those who don't want to use the case, than shiny plastic or glass.

I never had a G84 in-hand, so can only compare in terms of specs as I start to look at the G85, which arrived just under a year later, in June 2024. They both have the more budget-friendly plastic frame, same back options as mentioned above and the G85 is slightly bigger all-round with a 6.67" screen instead of the G84's 6.5" (which doesn't feel as big because of those curves), so a tad taller and wider, but about the same thickness and not far off the same weight. The older phone seems to have had an IP5/4 rating whereas the G85 is now back to the typical Moto nano-coating arrangements, officially at least. They may have just been saving some cash on the certification costs.

The Gorilla Glass 5 screen is up to Moto's usual standard, being a gorgeous, bright, colourful pOLED, as it was last year I'm told, both of them refreshing at up to 120Hz. The newer phone peaks out for brightness at 1600nits over 1300, for anyone who can tell! Both phones have 1080p screens with a 20:9 ratio, returning about 400ppi. The G85's screen really is nice to use, especially with that slight curve around the left and right - and is a joy to look at, too. I'm still not sure if these panels remain LG-supplied, but they make a big difference to usage and often defy the price-point as Moto are including them lower and lower down the range.

The chipsets used in the two phones are also comparable - the G85's SnapDragon 6s Gen 3 is apparently a slightly beefed up version of the G84's SnapDragon 695. The G85 performs well enough in my tests here taking it through the usual array of car-racing games, heavy loading in terms of copying files, reading/writing to microSD and so on. I detected no heating up even during the most intensive tasks. These chipsets are never going to perform like the latest/greatest industry leaders, but for Joe Public, they are just fine and the slight slowdown that might be detected by the user is so minimal that the vast majority of users' expectations will not be challenged.

This supplied Cobalt Blue unit has got 256GB Storage and 12GB RAM, but it's also available with 8GB RAM in 256GB and 128GB versions. Again, I have thrown many tasks at the system and yes, opening and closing apps, starting up the phone, is not as instant as more well-specified phones, but I certainly don't see any problematic shutting down of apps - they can be recalled from Recents from some way back. Both phones have got a microSD Card slot, so whichever base-model you get, you can expand up - and this one is playing very nicely with my 1TB microSD Card for read/write speeds. Incidentally, apart from this colour, you can also get it in Olive Green, Urban Grey and Magenta.

One of the differences between the two phones is that with the new one, Moto have stepped up their game with promises of longer support. The G84 arrived on Android 13 and it was pretty much unspecified as to how long it would be supported (though I understand that it does have Android 14 now) - but the G85 gets the promise of 2 OS updates (so to Android 16 following Google's release - which at time of writing sounds like it might be in mid-2025 now) and 4 years of Security updates (so to June 2028). Yes, it looks like this is not going to be supported terribly long-term, but at least it's specified and not at the whim of what they fancy doing at the time.

Another difference between the two phones is that the older phone had a 3.5mm audio-out socket which has been removed for the G85. Not sure how much that will impact people but to be honest, I'm mostly using Bluetooth these days as it's so good and convenient - so perhaps the legacy crowd will all eventually have to settle on Sony! The G84's audio also had 24-bit, high-res output but again, with Bluetooth, the G85 sounds great to my ears, good quality and volume - as always, depending on the quality of attached gear.

The speakers are up to Motorola's usual decent standards in my tests here, even at this cheaper price-point. Yes, at full volume they can get a little tinny, but playing with the Dolby Atmos equaliser settings and installing Wavelet sorts that out nicely. What you lose in a little volume you can make up for in quality. No, it's no Sony Xperia, but the stereo effect is good and soundstage wide and impactful 18" from the face. The vast majority of users will have no complains about the sound.

The cameras on the two phones are very similar as well. The main shooter being a 50MP one with OIS, a supporting 8MP wide-angle with autofocus, 1080p video at 60fps - although the Selfie has been upped in spec, now being a 32MP unit instead of 16MP. The test shots that I have taken here all seem perfectly good enough for the 98% of users who are going to post photos to social media and share with friends, leaving the 2% pixel-peepers no doubt to zoom in and tut-tut! That autofocus in the wide-angle camera allows for nice and close so-called Macro shots and shooting in Night Vision seems to pull out shareable photos even when the human eye sees pitch blackness! The camera software looks exactly the same to me as it is in various recent Motorola phones, so perhaps I'll point you now to my coverage in those. ThinkPhone, Edge 50 Pro, Edge 50 Neo, Edge 40, Edge 40 Neo, G Stylus (2024) and so on! There's oodles of Moto stuff on my blog here. You'll have gathered that I'm a fan!

Connectivity
in my tests here is good. All boxes ticked and appear to be working well, for Wi-Fi, tested on 3 networks, Bluetooth, with good range and holding on well - again depending on attached gear, GPS for mapping applications - locking on quickly and staying so - and also NFC talking to other gear and payment terminals in shops. Again, check your region for what's included/supplied/working with all this stuff.

Security seems good with an under-glass optical fingerprint scanner and face unlock working together well, or indeed in isolation, in all-but the darkest conditions for face. Fingerprint scanning software, though never going to be as good as ultrasonic in my experience, makes registering easy/quick and in use, reliable. All this was, again, available on the G84 so I can assume that it worked as well.

The 5000mAh battery is the same in both units, but anything like the fast charging of Moto's more expensive models is not present. No chance of the 125W charging of the high-end units or even the 68W of the mid-range. No, here, we have 30W wired and no wireless. I guess something has to give and personally, I'm OK with the 30W wired charging but have really come to rely on wireless (overnight) charging, inefficient and bad for the planet as I'm told it is. 30W wired is no slouch however and certainly better than it used to be with these lower-mid-range phones - and this one can be charged up in under an hour and a half. But the 5000mAh battery is sound as a pound! Really well-performing, getting through 2 days of moderate/light use. The 10% Reading Test I do returned excellent result at well over 2 hours. You can always add a 3rd party Qi coil for a fiver from Amazon as long as you're OK wielding a case.

HelloUI
is the new-look MyUI from Moto and every phone released by them now comes with it. Even, yes, down here at this price-point. And it's very pretty, been redesigned in terms of front-end, colours, display options, all those great Moto Gestures which I have written about so much - all present and correct. The UI is very Vanilla - like a Pixel in many ways sticking to the tried and tested, but with Moto's sprinkling of genuinely useful additions, including some AI sneaking into some settings like CrystalTalk for reducing background noise on VOIP calls and whatever Google make available, like Gemini Live! It goes deeper than ever now as Moto prioritises security in keeping with what Google are doing as they evolve Android. As I say, I have written loads about HelloUI now, so check out my linked-to reviews above, especially the recent ones where I dig into the nitty-gritty of it all.

Moto's Smart Connect works brilliantly with the G85, wirelessly of course - only the very top phones get wired support, but actually, wireless is so good, I really don't think, armed with a reliable network connection in your space, wired is becoming unnecessary. Never thought I'd hear myself say that, being a big HDMI-Out fan for so long! Now of course sometimes a situation may arise where a network can't be relied on, then a cable becomes like gold dust. But networks are generally getting very good these days and the hospitality sector gearing themselves up generally for customer's needs. Anyway, it works perfectly here. I shall point you to my Smart Connect Review and Features piece on my Blog as all the details are there, so click on through and see what's so great about it! And it's amazing that Moto are including all the hooks to make it work in even their lower-end phones now. Kudos.

So now back to the original question about the Motorola Edge 50 Neo which is my current darling of the range! What do you get extra over the G85 here by paying the extra £100 (or, as I say, just now £70)? Well, for starters you get wireless charging - admittedly it's only at 15W but that's perfectly good enough for overnighters like me. You also get 68W charging (though still no brick in the box in this region) so significantly faster charging when needed. You get a much smaller phone, which, for one-handed use, is much better than the G85's bigger display for me - though some would argue this the other way as you can see more! There's also no premium-look/feel edges on the Edge 50 Neo, rather a flat screen. Because it's smaller, you get a smaller battery - though in my testing these two really are as good as each other. You do get Moto's first promise of 5 Android OS updates on the Neo and Security patches to 2029, unlike here. You also get IP6/8 dust/water resistance as well as MIL-STD-810H compliancy, which is just amazing. It's becoming a hard act to beat already, don't you think, for the price difference? But I haven't finished yet! One of the big ones for me on the Neo is a proper Always on Display (the same as was introduced for the Razr 50 Ultra), not present on the G85. It's been a long time coming, but hurrah - perhaps we've turned the corner now, grown out of the (in some way excellent) Peek Display and arrived with this much more useful standard, sipping lightly at the battery via the efficient chipset. You also get another camera stuffed in there with OIS and 3x optical zoom and 512GB/12GB RAM as standard on the Neo (though no microSD). It really feels like a tough act to follow, for the price-difference, but do click through above to my full review.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing much wrong with the G85, a mid-range phone at a decent price with an amazing pOLED screen, great build quality with a premium feel, a very (what we used to call) stock Android experience in terms of software, microSD for loads of storage, the whole Moto secure stuff built right in as well as the excellent Smart Connect, very well-performing speakers, long-lasting battery - the list goes on. Trouble is, that in my opinion, if you have the extra £70/£100 to spare, you can get so much more for the bit more cash with the Edge 50 Neo. This G85 is still recommended however, especially if someone likes the styling and wants a screen that's a bit bigger. Spoiled for choice by Moto!

2 comments:

  1. I heard what you said in the pod. The Neo is the better choice. It is a bit sad to see the demise of the moto G lineup. It used to be the king of lower mid range.

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